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	<description>Peering into the Cauldron of the Gods...</description>
	<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 05:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Bond Bargains by Jason G.</title>
		<link>http://www.tasgall.com/2008/10/07/bond-bargains/#comment-1613</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 15:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you were interested in this tactic, make sure you know the leverage ratio of the funds you buy...  some of them are going to get into trouble with falling asset prices.

TYY is not a bond fund, but has a similar strategy (it's a MLP closed-end fund), and may not have sufficient leverage coverage within their charter:
http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/081009/20081009006125.html?.v=1</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you were interested in this tactic, make sure you know the leverage ratio of the funds you buy&#8230;  some of them are going to get into trouble with falling asset prices.</p>
<p>TYY is not a bond fund, but has a similar strategy (it&#8217;s a MLP closed-end fund), and may not have sufficient leverage coverage within their charter:<br />
<a href="http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/081009/20081009006125.html?.v=1" rel="nofollow">http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/081009/20081009006125.html?.v=1</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on So What&#8217;s the Plan, Stan? by Jason G.</title>
		<link>http://www.tasgall.com/2008/10/01/so-whats-the-plan-stan/#comment-1611</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 21:34:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't consider the broad indexes to be "value" right now.  But at 70% off of peak prices, my opinion would change.

And with gold...  yes.  The fundamentals are lined up with gold, but I'm waiting for confirmation from prices.

Deflation fears in the short term. Gold may get cheaper before it goes higher.  Gold stocks are getting relatively pummeled by nature of being stocks.  And that big downtrend (HUI) since March scares me.

I like the idea of gold, but don't know if the timing is right yet.  Luckily I can adjust my opinion and positions as time unfolds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t consider the broad indexes to be &#8220;value&#8221; right now.  But at 70% off of peak prices, my opinion would change.</p>
<p>And with gold&#8230;  yes.  The fundamentals are lined up with gold, but I&#8217;m waiting for confirmation from prices.</p>
<p>Deflation fears in the short term. Gold may get cheaper before it goes higher.  Gold stocks are getting relatively pummeled by nature of being stocks.  And that big downtrend (HUI) since March scares me.</p>
<p>I like the idea of gold, but don&#8217;t know if the timing is right yet.  Luckily I can adjust my opinion and positions as time unfolds.</p>
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		<title>Comment on PE Ratios&#8230;back to earth by Quicksilver</title>
		<link>http://www.tasgall.com/2008/10/09/pe-ratiosback-to-earth/#comment-1610</link>
		<dc:creator>Quicksilver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 21:21:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I should mention that 880 represents the highest density price of the S&#038;P back during the 2003 consolidation near the lows. Today's market had a low of 909.19.

Also, for options lovers, I'd like to point people to this classic article (though probably forgotten) about reverse calendar spreads as a way to play capitulation days (not that we've really had a true one yet). It's an interesting way to avoid bottom picking problems with straight buying.

http://www.investopedia.com/articles/optioninvestor/02/081902.asp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should mention that 880 represents the highest density price of the S&#038;P back during the 2003 consolidation near the lows. Today&#8217;s market had a low of 909.19.</p>
<p>Also, for options lovers, I&#8217;d like to point people to this classic article (though probably forgotten) about reverse calendar spreads as a way to play capitulation days (not that we&#8217;ve really had a true one yet). It&#8217;s an interesting way to avoid bottom picking problems with straight buying.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.investopedia.com/articles/optioninvestor/02/081902.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.investopedia.com/articles/optioninvestor/02/081902.asp</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on PE Ratios&#8230;back to earth by Jason G.</title>
		<link>http://www.tasgall.com/2008/10/09/pe-ratiosback-to-earth/#comment-1609</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 21:11:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are those P/E ratios based on trailing earnings, or future earnings projections?  Different websites report different numbers, and the E may be up for debate...

Regardless, I agree that prices are starting to make the broad indexes look more attractive.  Those of us that are young will benefit from dollar cost averaging in bear markets like this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are those P/E ratios based on trailing earnings, or future earnings projections?  Different websites report different numbers, and the E may be up for debate&#8230;</p>
<p>Regardless, I agree that prices are starting to make the broad indexes look more attractive.  Those of us that are young will benefit from dollar cost averaging in bear markets like this.</p>
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		<title>Comment on So What&#8217;s the Plan, Stan? by Quicksilver</title>
		<link>http://www.tasgall.com/2008/10/01/so-whats-the-plan-stan/#comment-1608</link>
		<dc:creator>Quicksilver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 20:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To quote Karl D about buying now:

"This is the "value trap" problem that many investors fall into.  You see the market down 30% and think its a great buying opportunity.

It is a great buying opportunity only if earnings going forward can be sustained.  But in this case, they cannot.  It is flatly impossible; with Treasury borrowing money like a madman, tacking on more than 20% to the national debt in the space of months, carrying costs will inevitably rise as will taxes.  Both of these have a multiplier effect (in the wrong direction) on corporate profits, and in addition the "faux profits" from financial engineering have all disappeared at the same time."

About gold, is your hesitancy because you are seeing deflation as more likely than hyperinflation or do you see inflation but simply think gold will get cheaper before it gets more expensive? Or something else?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To quote Karl D about buying now:</p>
<p>&#8220;This is the &#8220;value trap&#8221; problem that many investors fall into.  You see the market down 30% and think its a great buying opportunity.</p>
<p>It is a great buying opportunity only if earnings going forward can be sustained.  But in this case, they cannot.  It is flatly impossible; with Treasury borrowing money like a madman, tacking on more than 20% to the national debt in the space of months, carrying costs will inevitably rise as will taxes.  Both of these have a multiplier effect (in the wrong direction) on corporate profits, and in addition the &#8220;faux profits&#8221; from financial engineering have all disappeared at the same time.&#8221;</p>
<p>About gold, is your hesitancy because you are seeing deflation as more likely than hyperinflation or do you see inflation but simply think gold will get cheaper before it gets more expensive? Or something else?</p>
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		<title>Comment on So What&#8217;s the Plan, Stan? by Jason G.</title>
		<link>http://www.tasgall.com/2008/10/01/so-whats-the-plan-stan/#comment-1607</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 20:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was also assuming that the stock market won't proceed downward at the same pace it has been...  if stocks fall far enough (e.g., S&#038;P drops below 500, ~70% total fall), I would be buying the broad indexes.  I certainly hope this doesn't happen, but we're currently proceeding downward at ludicrous speed...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was also assuming that the stock market won&#8217;t proceed downward at the same pace it has been&#8230;  if stocks fall far enough (e.g., S&#038;P drops below 500, ~70% total fall), I would be buying the broad indexes.  I certainly hope this doesn&#8217;t happen, but we&#8217;re currently proceeding downward at ludicrous speed&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on So What&#8217;s the Plan, Stan? by Quicksilver</title>
		<link>http://www.tasgall.com/2008/10/01/so-whats-the-plan-stan/#comment-1606</link>
		<dc:creator>Quicksilver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 19:00:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also take a glance at the Now &#038; Futures investing grid for ideas.

http://www.nowandfutures.com/investing.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also take a glance at the Now &#038; Futures investing grid for ideas.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nowandfutures.com/investing.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nowandfutures.com/investing.html</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Baltic Dry Index is Crashing by Jason G.</title>
		<link>http://www.tasgall.com/2008/10/01/baltic-dry-index-is-crashing/#comment-1605</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 16:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More here:
http://paul.kedrosky.com/archives/2008/10/09/bulk_carriers_f.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More here:<br />
<a href="http://paul.kedrosky.com/archives/2008/10/09/bulk_carriers_f.html" rel="nofollow">http://paul.kedrosky.com/archives/2008/10/09/bulk_carriers_f.html</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on So What&#8217;s the Plan, Stan? by Jason G.</title>
		<link>http://www.tasgall.com/2008/10/01/so-whats-the-plan-stan/#comment-1604</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 16:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To answer your specific plan for the hypothetical $100k...

(The assumption is that this doesn't include your savings fund for consumption and emergencies so that we can have a pure theoretical exercise...)

I'd be scaling into the following allocations...

20% closed-end bond funds trading at discounts
20% energy trusts and MLPs or MLP funds
20% targeted for gold and gold stocks
40% cash

I'm not eager about getting into gold or gold stocks right now, so I probably wouldn't be scaling into those, or be scaling slowly and waiting for a trade catalyst before putting that money to work.

The 40% cash would be defensive and basically my "wait for ridiculous prices" fund.  Money market rates are low, but he who loses the least in bear markets is ultimately a winner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To answer your specific plan for the hypothetical $100k&#8230;</p>
<p>(The assumption is that this doesn&#8217;t include your savings fund for consumption and emergencies so that we can have a pure theoretical exercise&#8230;)</p>
<p>I&#8217;d be scaling into the following allocations&#8230;</p>
<p>20% closed-end bond funds trading at discounts<br />
20% energy trusts and MLPs or MLP funds<br />
20% targeted for gold and gold stocks<br />
40% cash</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not eager about getting into gold or gold stocks right now, so I probably wouldn&#8217;t be scaling into those, or be scaling slowly and waiting for a trade catalyst before putting that money to work.</p>
<p>The 40% cash would be defensive and basically my &#8220;wait for ridiculous prices&#8221; fund.  Money market rates are low, but he who loses the least in bear markets is ultimately a winner.</p>
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		<title>Comment on So What&#8217;s the Plan, Stan? by Jason G.</title>
		<link>http://www.tasgall.com/2008/10/01/so-whats-the-plan-stan/#comment-1603</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 15:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As the dust settles a bit, my current plan is to potentially expect a long-ish period of slow economic growth.  Cash is king.  Cash producing assets seem like the best asset class to ride out this period...

The bonds trading at a discount (that I wrote about separately) are on my short list of candidates, as are several of the energy trusts and MLPs that have very high yields.

When P/E ratios are fluctuating rapidly because of dramatic changes in both P and E, the actual cash flow and dividends become more important.

Ultimately, even if today (or tomorrow) marks the bottom of the bear market, I don't think a new, vigorous bull market will be starting right away.  I believe we will have lots of time, so patience is in order.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As the dust settles a bit, my current plan is to potentially expect a long-ish period of slow economic growth.  Cash is king.  Cash producing assets seem like the best asset class to ride out this period&#8230;</p>
<p>The bonds trading at a discount (that I wrote about separately) are on my short list of candidates, as are several of the energy trusts and MLPs that have very high yields.</p>
<p>When P/E ratios are fluctuating rapidly because of dramatic changes in both P and E, the actual cash flow and dividends become more important.</p>
<p>Ultimately, even if today (or tomorrow) marks the bottom of the bear market, I don&#8217;t think a new, vigorous bull market will be starting right away.  I believe we will have lots of time, so patience is in order.</p>
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